Telstra: A "great cash machine" in a weak economy

The telco giant beat profit expectations but follows other big ASX peers downwards following mixed FY25 results.
Tom Stelzer

Livewire Markets

Despite net profits rising 31% to $2.3 billion, Telstra (ASX: TLS) has sold off following the release of earnings that arguably left analysts wanting a little more. 

Telstra had been up more than 20% year-to-date, and trading at its highest price since 2017, but was down almost 3% by lunchtime Thursday.

One big announcement was a further $1 billion share buy-back, planned to commence early next month. This follows on the heels of a separate $750 million buyback completed at the end of June. 

To make sense of the numbers and the outlook for Telstra going forward, we spoke to Hugh Giddy, IML portfolio manager.

Telstra (ASX: TLS) FY25 key results

  • Underlying NPAT up 1.8% to $2.3bn vs. $2.28bn ests (0.9% beat on Macquarie estimates)
  • Reported EPS up 34% to 18.9 cents per share vs. 19.95 cps ests (5.3% miss)
  • Total dividend up 5.6% to 19 cents per share vs. 19.95 cps ests (4.8% miss)
  • On-market buy-back of up to $1bn, expected to commence after 8 September
Hugh Giddy, IML
Hugh Giddy, IML

What was the key takeaway from this result in one sentence?

The key takeaway is the strong cash flow facilitating a bigger buyback of $1 billion that's underpinned by good cost control.

Were there any surprises in this result that you think investors need to be aware of?

I think the reason the stock is down is because TPG and Optus have already reported, and now Telstra has as well, and overall, the [telco] market seems not to be growing that much.

We've had some population growth, obviously, but in terms of additional subscriber numbers, they are maybe a little bit weaker than people were thinking. The guidance is in line with our numbers, but some analysts on the street were looking for a bit more.

Would you buy, hold or sell TLS off the back of this result?

Rating: HOLD

I'd call it a hold. 

It's fair to say Telstra is on a higher multiple than it has been, but so is the market. At least with Telstra, I think the earnings and the cash flow are quite well underpinned by the nature of the business. It's a utility, it’s very necessary. 

When you look at the competitors, their return on capital is not that strong. Telstra's own return on invested capital is 8.5% for a market leader. They have to keep investing in their networks and in spectrum and so on.

So the need to maintain price to not try and win customers through a price war, which is what happened a few years ago. Optus led a price war that was ineffectual - it just lowered profits for everyone. Now all the mobile operators are tending to raise prices.

Why I think it's a hold is there's very little risk in the earnings and it's just a great cash machine in an economy that I think is exhibiting some sort of warning signs.

Are there any risks investors need to be aware of?

I don't think that the risk is around heightened competition in the mobile market. 

The risk is really - and you've seen a little bit of it in this result - where the wholesale subscriber adds were quite high (217,000), whereas the overall net adds weren't that high and wholesale tends to be cheaper for Telstra. 

Prepaid was stronger than postpaid, and that tends to be cheaper, so it's just reflecting some trading down. The net adds are coming from people who are happy to accept slightly less coverage and a cheaper plan.

From 1 to 5, where 1 is cheap and 5 is expensive, how much value are you seeing on the ASX today?

Rating: 5

Telstra I think is reasonably priced, but the broad market is very expensive. If you look at the overall market P/E, it's close to its highest level ever.

The private sector is not that strong, and you've got people excited about interest rate cuts when the only way the Reserve Bank can really justify interest rate cuts is if they're confident inflation will stay down.

It would be a big mistake for them to keep cutting and find that inflation then goes out of the band, and they've got to raise rates again.

You're also still seeing wages coming through at quite a high level, and in the non-traded part of the economy, inflation is still happening. 

Imports are quite cheap, but offsetting that, wages are too strong and there's low productivity. That puts pressure on corporates, unless they stop hiring, but that's bad for the economy and bad for profits. 

It's a circular system. Having a very high PE and some risks to the economy - that combo is not ideal for the market.
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