8 ETFs with the tick of approval from advisers for FY26

Not all ETFs are created equal. Andrew Wielandt and Adam Dawes swap notes on their favourite ETFs across income, growth and alternatives.
Anna Dadic

Livewire Markets

ETFs have become the go-to investment vehicle for many Australian investors. Once seen as a simple way to track an index at a low cost, the ETF universe has exploded to cover everything from income generation to thematics to alternatives. 

With more than 420 funds now available on the ASX, investors are faced with an abundance of choice - but with that, no shortage of confusion about which products make sense for different environments.

In this lively panel, Andrew Wielandt of DP Wealth Advisory and Adam Dawes of Shaw & Partners go head-to-head on the active vs passive debate, reveal how they are positioning client portfolios, and share their favourite ETF ideas across the asset classes.

Edited Transcript

Anna Dadic: Hello and welcome to Livewire Markets. My name is Anna Dadic. Today, we're going to run the ruler over a handful of ETFs across a variety of asset classes. And to do that, I'm joined by Andrew Wielandt of DP Wealth Advisory and Adam Dawes of Shaw and Partners. Gents, welcome.

So before we get into your favourite ETFs, we're going to dive into the active versus passive debate. To make this a bit of fun, I'm going to pit you guys against each other.

Active vs passive ETFs

Anna Dadic: Andrew, fly the flag for the active side. Tell me why they should be preferred in the current environment.

Andrew Wielandt: I'm going to be somewhat controversial, Anna. I'm not going to try to take too much of Adam's thunder. I actually think it's a blend of both, but certainly, there are particular places where active really is the place to be.

So, as an example, with Australian small caps, bonds in particular, as well - if we look back to the last time of market stress in 2022, passive bonds didn’t perform as well as we’d hoped. And if you think about how small companies work, companies moving through a particular index, the passive ETF will capture them.

Take JB Hi-Fi as an example. When I worked for Macquarie, we floated JB Hi-Fi at $2. What is it now, $120?

Adam Dawes: $110.

Andrew Wielandt: Something like that. So as a small passive manager, you would've captured a little bit of that along the way, but you don’t capture all of it. Whereas an active manager will be trying to pick the eyes out of it, so to speak.

There’s certainly a place for passive - and my learned friend will make a very compelling argument with that shortly - but there are particular aspects where active really comes to the fore, never mind concerns around the Magnificent Seven and valuation. So, bit of a barbell - definitely a place for active.

Anna Dadic: Okay, Adam, now tell me why passive is better and active is no good right now.

Adam Dawes: Certainly, I think passive does serve a place in the portfolio, especially for clients that have low balances. They can then basically get involved in an index, whether it’s the ASX 200 or the S&P 500.

Passive does work better when markets are lower, not when they're high, which is where we are at the moment. And also, active managers would have struggled here in Australia to beat the index because of their lack of weighting in Commonwealth Bank, for example. Everybody missed that move.

So when you are passive, you’re getting that index, you’re getting those weightings, and you’re getting the uplift. But overall, I think passive has a place. But I’m with you - I think we need active and passive together to get a greater outcome for clients.

Andrew Wielandt: And I might just quickly steal a moment of Adam’s time. The flip side to what you just said is, of course, CSL yesterday, the third-largest company. I actually didn’t think it was a bad result. It was more that the market is scared of all the other things that are going on.

Adam Dawes: But that was 53 points of the index down.

Andrew Wielandt: So it cuts both ways. When CBA is $194 or whatever nosebleed price it is, it propels things along. Equally, CSL - pros and cons.

Anna Dadic: Compelling. So now to the million-dollar question - which ETFs do each of you prefer for your clients right now? Active or passive? Adam, first.

Adam Dawes: I’m going to say active. Where we are in the market and the cycle we’re in, active is definitely the place to be. If this market is priced to perfection here in Australia and in the US, if something does go wrong, you want an active manager there - especially someone who can do long and short, who can take advantage of movements on the downside as well as the upside.

Andrew Wielandt: And I would tend to agree, albeit again from a barbell point of view. So, as an example, in our Australian equities, we have a part that’s just a passive low-cost ETF, we have an active manager who’s picking the eyes out of particular direct equities, and then we also have another ETF that’s capturing most of the upside but only some of the downside.

So that blended approach, because, as Adam’s saying, it’s that type of market where it really is a stock-pickers’ market. A hundred percent passive is for when everyone hates the world, when, as an advisor, you don’t want to press the buy button because you’re scared. That’s not where we are at the moment - it’s the other side of it. So you really want that active piece.

Income ETFs

Anna Dadic: Let's talk about some of the ETFs you've been recommending to your clients or researching lately. We'll start with an income focus. Andrew, I'll start with you. What's your favourite income ETF right now and why?

Andrew Wielandt: So Anna, my favourite type of ice cream is vanilla. I'm beige, I'm boring.

Adam Dawes: About to say, this jacket’s pretty out there for you!

Andrew Wielandt: I didn’t bring my Richie Benaud jacket today - two for 22. But the Vanguard VHY Income ETF (ASX: VHY) is the one that our clients like, and we like as well. About $5 billion funds under management, very low MER at about 25 basis points. They have 75 names in there - it’s all the ones you’d expect. Commonwealth Bank - albeit CBA is only about 9%, which is interesting relative to the index. It’s got some BHP - though BHP just cut their dividend by 26%, which isn’t helpful. And they’ve also got NAB in there as well.

It’s up about 15% for the last five years, with a 4.6% dividend yield included in that 15% number I just gave you (that’s total return). So if you’re looking for steady, boring income, pays quarterly, all those big names, very sharp MER - pretty hard to go past Vanguard.

Anna Dadic: Adam, VHY is a staple in many portfolios, but it’s focused only on Australian shares. Is there something you like with perhaps a more international flavour?

Adam Dawes: Well, this is far from vanilla ice cream. This one is the Neapolitan! Everything inside of it. It’s the JP Morgan Equity Premium Income ETF (ASX: JEPI). This is a very good one - not for your 80-year-old grandmother, because there is an options overlay across the top to give you more income, especially in the international market. So it is higher risk, and you need to read the label and do your due diligence. But it does give you a decent dividend yield - around 6% - pays monthly. MER is about 0.4%. It gives you exposure to the international markets, especially the US. I think it’s a great complement to VHY on the Australian side. Just remember, options overlay means extra risk and a little extra cost.

Andrew Wielandt, DP Wealth Advisory, and Adam Dawes, Shaw & Partners.
Andrew Wielandt, DP Wealth Advisory, and Adam Dawes, Shaw & Partners.

Global exposure ETFs

Anna Dadic: Let’s shift gears now. Let’s face it, if you haven’t been invested in global stocks over the past 12 months, you’ve probably missed out on a chunk of performance. So what’s your favourite way to get that exposure? Adam, I’ll start with you.

Adam Dawes: So PGA1 (ASX: PGA1), the Plato Alpha Global Fund. This is where they’re able to make decisions on the long and the short. So when markets are moving higher, they can take advantage of that. When things aren’t doing so well, they can play the short side.

There are about 49 long positions and around 50–60 shorts at the moment. It does have a high concentration to the US, because obviously that’s where a lot of the global alpha has been coming from, but there are other countries in there as well. It pays a little income, not huge, but you’re getting that global growth. They returned around 36–38% last year above the benchmark of 20%. Absolutely killing it. That’s one we’ve got a lot of clients in, and it gives us that global exposure. We really like it.

Anna Dadic: Andrew, how have you been getting your international exposure?

Andrew Wielandt: So we’ve been using an active manager, Munro. Nick Griffin is a very switched-on individual, and his team has done very well in the managed fund space, and they’ve now got some ETFs.

The one we’re focused on is the Munro Concentrated Global Growth (ASX: MCGG). It holds 20 to 40 positions, so nowhere near as eclectic as PGA1. They’ve got “areas of interest” - digital, climate, advanced computing. Names you’d expect: Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon.

They’ve done incredibly well - 30%+ returns over the last 12 months since listing, up about 20% per annum. The Rule of 72 says if they keep that up, they’d double every 3.5 years (past performance is not a future indicator, of course). Highly concentrated, take a view, don’t step back - and it’s paying off. Fees are a little pointy-ended - 0.7% plus a 1% performance fee. But hey, if you’re delivering that type of return, who cares?

Adam Dawes: Paid a great div as well - $2.50 a month ago. Looking quite good.

Thematic ETFs

Anna Dadic: Thematic ETFs have been all the rage lately. More than 40 are currently available on the ASX, and a recent investor survey showed more than 50% of respondents are planning to increase their thematic exposure over the coming year. Which thematic ETFs are top of the pops? Andrew, staying with you - what are you liking?

Andrew Wielandt: This is hot off the press. I was at a conference yesterday. An active manager there was quite anti-thematic ETFs, saying that by the time they come through marketing and compliance, it’s potentially too late. So, you’ve got to be nimble with these ones. Might be hot today, dead tomorrow. 

Adam Dawes: Yeah, I agree. Investors get wound up in lithium, copper, uranium stories, then the world moves on. And you’re left holding it, saying, “Oh, I think it’ll be good one day.” You’ve got to be nimble.

Andrew Wielandt: So - core and satellite. Simplistically, two-thirds core, one-third satellite.

And in the thematic space, we’ve been looking at Van Eck DFND (ASX: DFND). Now, I hope the products inside are never used, but the reality is the world at the moment - Ukraine, the Middle East, Taiwan - all has the market on edge. This ETF owns global defence companies - Palantir, RTX, Thales - are in the top three. It’s up 47% in the last six months. The index has averaged 50% per annum over three years. With Trump pushing for 5% of GDP in defence spend, I think this has legs. But, if there’s a ceasefire or peace agreement, global tensions fall, this ETF would come under pressure. For now though, it’s on everyone’s radar.

Anna Dadic: Adam, you’ve got something very different for us - an international ETF in a very interesting space.

Adam Dawes: Yes—it’s the Humanoid ETF (BATS: HUMN), listed on the NYSE. Buyer beware - this is high risk. Humanoids are projected to grow: by 2035 around 1.2 million humanoids, by 2050 around 300 million servicing everything - aged care, industry, and more. They even had the Humanoid Olympics the other day - running, soccer, testing all sorts of things. Now, HUMN holds about 12% Tesla, so you’re really investing in Tesla as well. But I think humanoids are going to be a big theme going forward. Do your own research before investing.

ETFs in the alternatives space

Anna Dadic: To round things out, I’ve asked the gents for their favourite alternatives ETFs. Alternatives is a broad church - it includes commodities, private markets, hedge funds. Adam, what’s your favourite?

Adam Dawes: I’ve gone boring and safe - GOLD (ASX: GOLD). As long as Donald Trump stays in power, gold is going to stay high and potentially keep rising. Everybody should have at least a 5% weighting. It doesn’t offer income - you’re just investing in the commodity itself, not the companies - but it’s a solid alternative.

Andrew Wielandt: And because it’s literally just gold bars sitting in a vault in London.

Anna Dadic: Andrew, bring us home. What are you liking in alternatives?

Andrew Wielandt: One I own in my own SMSF is L1 Capital Long Short Fund (ASX: LSF), run by Mark Landau. With active managers, it really is about the people and the process.

Over the last 12 months, it’s up 8% vs the market’s 12% - underperformed. But in the last 3 months, it’s up 15% vs the index up 3–4%. They really picked the lithium turnaround. Over 5 years, it’s up ~22% per annum vs the index at 13%. Yes, the MER is pointy at 1.44%, but if you’re delivering 900 bps of alpha per annum, I’ll happily pay. It’s long/short - 59 open long positions, 20 shorts. Playing both sides and doing a really good job. So LSF.

Anna Dadic: Andrew, Adam, thank you for giving us some ideas for everyone’s ETF portfolio and for joining Livewire today.

Andrew Wielandt: Thanks for inviting us.

Adam Dawes: Thank you, Anna.

Anna Dadic: Well, there you have it - a handful of ETF investment ideas for your watchlist or portfolio. Thanks to Adam and Andrew for their insights today. If you enjoyed that interview, make sure to give it a like, and don’t forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel, we release new content every week.

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