How much are you willing to pay for growth?

David Rosenbloom

The debate over the probability, timing and severity of a housing bust is getting louder. Pondering this, I’m reminded of advice from a wise old sage when I was a wet-behind-the-ears analyst: “look at the market – what’s it telling you?”

At the moment the market is telling a very interesting story….and it’s been telling that story for quite a while.

It seems that while many are debating housing, market participants have already acted - bank stocks have been falling, and under-performing the market, for months, as you can see from the chart below.

So while those calling for a housing crash seem to still be in the minority, investors are worried that the issues raised at the Royal Commission are more than just “noise”.

The key question that we want to address here is not so much one of why banks are underperforming. There are some good reasons for this, including lower trend ROEs and latent (but now closer) credit loss risks driving lower valuations.

In our view, however, the more interesting question is that despite this large sector’s very poor performance, the overall market has eked out gains, so where did the money go?

Firstly, our sense is that many managers are holding elevated levels of cash, a clear indicator of heightened unease. Of course, unlike long short managers such as ourselves, the traditional long only manager doesn’t have many tools to protect capital in falling markets – a possibility they are clearly considering.

Unlike a long-short manager, such investors can’t sell stocks short to hedge overall market risk. All they can really do is maximise cash holdings (usually within quite narrow limits), and position their portfolios in whatever manner they deem “defensive”.

It’s when we then ask, “what’s 'defensive'?” that the situation becomes more interesting again.

Our analysis shows a highly unusual pattern to recent market performance, in which investors are prepared to pay up for growth (at almost any price) and for exposure to the global, rather than the Australian, economy. The following charts are quite stark:

The story thus takes shape:

  1. Investors are (rightfully) nervous – especially of financials;
  2. There’s precious little growth in our market;
  3. Investors seeking defensive positioning in their portfolios seem increasingly to be paying indefensible stock valuations

We illustrate point three above by reference to the following:

I think all would agree these are pretty lofty multiples. To put this in context we’ll just use one of these stocks as an example, but the gist is the same for all.

The following Bloomberg chart shows the one year rolling forward PE ratio for Cochlear. To summarise, the price the market has been willing to pay for Cochlear’s growth has been rising…a lot!

Consequently, the bulk of the its price rise has been due to investor willingness to pay more for a certain level of earnings, and much less about the improvement in earnings outlooks.

Simply put, in 2014 the market was willing to pay 25x for a dollar of Cochlear earnings, and that has now risen to nearly 40x today.

Tying this all together, we have a bifurcated market, a fancy word for two-tiered: a handful of growth stocks and resource stocks are doing well, financials are doing poorly and the rest are muddling along. In our view, while understanding that valuation can be more of a notion than a fact, valuation appears to have been thrown out the window.

Of course, the above sample includes many great companies with strong business models and good management. In general, these are companies that we want to be long, but just not at any price.

Remember, as fund managers, we’re buying (or selling) the share price, not the company. The result is that by acknowledging market and economic risks, and with the best of intentions (defensiveness), the market has latched on to a very narrow group of stocks which, ironically, has left them in a position that is anything but defensive.

This situation is the typical long only, index-aware manager’s dilemma, and the absolute return investor’s opportunity.

David Rosenbloom

David has 20 years’ experience in Australian equities as a portfolio manager and analyst. Prior to joining ARCO Investment Management, David was the portfolio manager for the Janus Henderson absolute return strategy



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James Rees

Really well written article David. But I'd be interested if you can provide any commentary how you practically react to the details you've outlined. Does an excessive P/E on COH mean that you short it? And how do you define a threshold for excessive when it comes to P/E? For example, is the current P/E of 38 actually sufficient to be excessive and if so, why was a P/E or, say 32 when it had increased from 24 still OK? Clearly, there will be a lot of complexities rather than simple thresholds, but I guess I'm asking whether you can actually verify with data a systematic approach to judging an excessive P/E?

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David Yabsley

Responding to James Rees: My gut feeling is no, but you could try the PEG Ratio which gives a comparison of the P/E Ratio to that of EPS Growth over say the last five years. This puts the P/E Ratio into perspective. But of course many will argue that historical performance is not a predictor. In response I would ask: what do you have that's better? Some would say Analysts' EPS forecasts. Not me, but it is an option. The benefit of the PEG Ratio is that it tells you if you are paying over the odds. Then it comes down to your assessment as to whether that is a reasonable call.

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James Rees

Thanks for the suggestion David Yabsley. But I haven't found any real value in looking at PEG ratios. They can be too volatile to give a valid signal. A stock with reliable earnings will tend to trade on a higher Price relative to Earnings Growth because that growth is more sustainable, whereas a stock on a low Price to Earnings Growth may just be showing volatile or unsustainable growth numbers.

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william frederick roberts

To James and David Y: the problem with PEG ratios for me is, comparing forward earnings growth with forward PE is two sucks of the thumb, comparing it with historical PE is still one suck of the thumb. More especially so with resource stocks, but admittedly here we are talking non-resource companies with pretty impressive long-term growth. In response to David R, could I be so bold as to say that long-short funds won't short stocks just cos of high PE. First they want to frighten the horses a little, with articles like this one.

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Peter Valentine

Could you elaborate on "absolute return investor’s opportunity." please?

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