Global property is making a comeback. You don't want to miss it

Shawn Lese of Nuveen Real Estate on why global property has turned the corner and where investors can find resilience and growth.
Chris Conway

Livewire Markets

Please note that this interview was recorded Wednesday, 10 September 2025

Global real estate is at a turning point. After two years of correction, values are stabilising, and in many regions, beginning to rebound. For Australian investors who may be underweight offshore property, the shift offers both diversification and opportunity. 

Few are better placed to assess this landscape than Shawn Lese, Chief Investment Officer and Head of Funds Management at Nuveen Real Estate, who oversees one of the world’s largest platforms with US142 billion under management across equity and debt strategies and as a top 5 real-estate manager globally.[1]

As Lese explains, the appeal of global real estate goes beyond chasing growth in different markets; it’s about resilience, diversification, and risk-adjusted returns. 

The global approach is going to give you diversification. It’s going to give you something different in different geographies at different times. 

For example, you could have values - as has happened recently here - where they’ve been declining, but you could have values that have a much stronger basis someplace else in the world. 

That gives you the opportunity to really pick and choose and look for your best risk-adjusted returns" says Lese. 

In this wide-ranging conversation as part of Livewire's Alternatives on Focus series, Lese outlines why he believes the market has already hit an inflexion point, with positive valuation gains pointing to a runway of future returns. 

He discusses the subsectors he sees as most compelling and how structural forces such as demographics, decarbonisation, and digitalisation are reshaping the built environment.

For the full experience, watch the video above, or read a short summary below. 

Livewire's Chris Conway interviewing Nuveen's Shawn Lese
Livewire's Chris Conway interviewing Nuveen's Shawn Lese

INTERVIEW SUMMARY

A turning point for global real estate

Lese is clear that the worst of the correction is behind the sector. 

“I think we’re at the turning point. In the United States, we’ve had three quarters of positive valuation increases already. 
And when we look historically with that kind of a dynamic in mind, we see a nice runway for positive returns going forward" says Lese.

With valuations reset, interest rates trending marginally lower, and capital returning, he argues the case for stepping back into real estate is strengthening.

The most compelling subsectors

Asked where he sees the best opportunities, Lese highlights healthcare and necessity retail. 

“I think one could look at medical office buildings, medical outpatient buildings, for example. 

And even if you have some softness in the fundamental economy, you’re still going to have to get healthcare services.” 

These assets combine resilience with attractive yields and are underpinned by ageing demographics globally.

Grocery-anchored shopping centres are another area of focus. 

“Valuations have fallen to the point where you can’t even come close to replacing a grocery anchor shopping centre to build a new one relative to what it costs for you to buy one out in the market right now. So you’re talking 40% discounts to replacement costs. 

No new supply is coming in that space for the foreseeable future, and yet the demand remains pretty robust.”

The impact of the three Ds

On longer-term themes, Lese points to demographics, decarbonisation, and digitalisation. He notes that population ageing and migration patterns are reshaping urban growth. 

“Those cities that can create a liveable environment and have a high quality of life… are going to be attracting people. And I think you can see growth there.” 

However, he cautions about oversupply risks in booming markets such as Austin and Nashville.

Banks return to the market

The conversation also covered financing dynamics. “Really, banks at that point [2022] pulled back and said, 'Hey, we don’t know where valuations are going. We don’t understand where interest rates are going. We’re going to step back from the market.” 

By mid-2024, that stance had reversed. 

“The banks were actually, I think, one of the catalysts that allowed for the capital markets to recover… they’ve returned to the market and provided what we call back leverage for the alternative lenders.” 

The return of traditional lenders, combined with tighter spreads and a potential downward slope in yield curves, sets up a more supportive backdrop.

Europe’s re-emergence

Regional allocation was another focus. 

“Certainly Europe has come back on the map this year as a very attractive place to be deploying capital.” Valuations fell harder than in the US, while political risks eased. 

“I feel like the EU is a much more cohesive group right now… with that political stability issue settled and a real view of let’s stand on our own and let’s get the economy going. 

I'm pretty enthusiastic about Europe as an investment location right now.”

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[1] AUM as of 30 Jun 2025. Pensions & Investments Real Estate Managers Special Report, October 2024. Ranking included 72 real estate managers and ranked them by total worldwide real estate assets as of 30 Jun 2024. Real estate assets are reported net of leverage, including contributions committed or received but not yet invested; REOCs are included with equity; REIT securities are excluded. Important Information Targeted returns do not reflect the actual or expected returns and do not guarantee future results. Investments can go up and down and there is no guarantee that investors will receive a return of capital. Diversification does not assure a profit or protect against loss. Notice to persons in Australia: This material has not been reviewed or approved by the Australian Securities & Investments Commission or any other regulatory authorities in Australia. This material is solely for use with Wholesale Clients as defined in section 761G of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth). Accordingly, this material may not be issued, passed to, or made available to the public in Australia, and no products or services may be offered or sold in Australia by means of this material or any other document other than to Wholesale Clients. No person to whom a copy of this material is issued may issue, circulate or distribute this material in Australia or make or give a copy of this material to any other person. If you are in any doubt about any of the contents of this material, you should seek independent professional advice. This material is issued by Nuveen Australia Limited (ABN 98 168 690 444, AFSL 460770). The statements contained herein represent the views and opinions of Nuveen as of the September 10, 2025 and may change without notice at any time based on market and/or other conditions and may not come to pass. All investments carry a certain degree of risk, including possible loss of principal, and there is no assurance that an investment will provide positive performance over any period of time. Past performance does not guarantee future results. Real estate investments are subject to various risks, including fluctuations in property values, higher expenses or lower income than expected, and potential environmental problems and liability. Please consider all risks carefully prior to investing in any particular strategy. A portfolio’s concentration in the real estate sector makes it subject to greater risk and volatility than other portfolios that are more diversified and its value may be substantially affected by economic events in the real estate industry. International investing involves risks, including risks related to foreign currency, limited liquidity particularly where the underlying asset comprises real estate, less government regulation in some jurisdictions, and the possibility of substantial volatility due to adverse political, economic or other developments. Video was filmed on September 10, 2025. 4839913 Featured Speaker: Shawn Lese, Chief Investment Officer and Head of Funds Management, Americas, Nuveen Real Estate Livewire gives readers access to information and educational content provided by financial services professionals and companies ("Livewire Contributors"). Livewire does not operate under an Australian financial services licence and relies on the exemption available under section 911A(2)(eb) of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth) in respect of any advice given. Any advice on this site is general in nature and does not take into consideration your objectives, financial situation or needs. Before making a decision, please consider these and any relevant Product Disclosure Statement. Livewire has commercial relationships with some Livewire Contributors.

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